Joe's Ships Archive
Joe joined the Orient Line in 1954 as a Cadet Purser. He served in "Orion", “Orcades", "Orontes", "Empire Orwell" and "Orsova", becoming Accounting Officer (Senior Assistant Purser).  He was Deputy Purser of "Orontes" for the last voyage to the breaker's yard in Valencia in 1961.
 
After leaving the sea he had a successful career in banking.
 
Over the coming years he acquired a very large collection of, mostly amateur film, taken by crew members on a great number of voyages. Joe’s son, David Clark, whose career is a video journalist, has now put Joe’s collection on YouTube.
 
His collection can be found on YouTube under “Joe’s Ship Archive”.
 
A most interesting collection, several hours’ worth.
 
Sadly Joe passed away on 5th January at the age of 81 after having a massive stroke on Christmas Day from which he did not recover.  

A Sample PDF copy of The Deeper water is Ashore can be down loaded by clicking on the Book Title.
Although the author’s graduation from his pre-sea nautical HMS Conway was both expected and anticipated, to be honoured at the same time with the Queen’s Gold Medal was certainly not, coming as it did as a deeply humbling surprise. Acceptance into the P. & O. Steam Navigation Company as a Cadet was far less of a given, as a pre-requisite was to successfully conclude a month at the Outward Bound Mountaineering School at Ullswater. There, one would be taken into the ‘tender care’ of three Marine Commandos, charged with ensuring that character building would indeed follow from adventures in mountaineering, canoeing and fell walking, not to mention the Commando assault course, athletics, and copious amounts of Kendal Mint Cakes!
 
His career path appeared to become even more defined as he gained Commission with the Royal Naval Reserve, his Master Mariner’s Certificate of Competence, and rose through the Officer ranks of the P. & O. Steam Navigation Company. However, the Seamans Strike in 1966 brought about a startling, but enervating, state of swiftly changing issues that demanded a fresh approach to, well, everything!
 
The Deeper Water is Ashore focuses on, and develops with, both fact and humour, the substantial changes which followed from significant strike action, and the eventual personal outcomes. If one can but briefly plagiarise and use the words of the poet and cleric John Donne (1572-1631), it was a case of “Seek not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.” (But never in the subjunctive tense!)
Author John William Perry
 
Born in Eastbourne, the author aspired, at an early age but for no obvious reason, to go to sea, being accepted as a Cadet to the HMS Conway pre-sea nautical College on the Isle of Anglesey at the tender age of 15. Acceptance as a Cadet Apprentice to the mighty P & O. S.N. Co followed two years later, rising through the Officer ranks to eventually gain his Master Mariner qualification, and a Commission as a Royal Naval Reserve Officer. Marriage happily retrieved him from assumed bachelorhood, and shortly after to a decision to “swallow the anchor”, and seek a career ashore, which rather explains his choice of book title!
Please join him, as you travel his adventures from the relative safety of sea-going, through those deeper waters ashore, where buoyancy was never guaranteed!

Copies can be purchased either from the publishers, Austin Macauley Publishers, or from Amazon. (Both Paperback and Kindle versions).

Update,Johns book was voted book of the month, July, in the Sea Breezes magazine.

Something in the Blood - Phillip Messinger
"The book is based on one incident when I was Master of a Panocean-Anco chemical tanker.  (Panocean was a joint venture between P&O and Ocean Fleets. I was 1/O of "Canberra" when I got itchy feet and joined this new venture as 2/O).

It's a true story which also reflects on my view of passenger ship culture etc
."

Phillips brother Nick has also created a web site which can be found at the following link, Nick Messinger.

The book is available on Amazon at the following link,

"Something in the Blood"

From Oceans to Embassies - Gillian Angrave
Gillian invites readers to find their sea legs and set sail with the author on a life of globetrotting, beautiful discoveries and even perilous danger. Gillian’s career has taken her from Assistant Purser onboard P&O’s traditional liners of the late 1960s and early 1970s to three decades serving as Ambassador’s PA with the Diplomatic Service. In this book, along with over two hundred photographs, Gillian Angrave tells her story in full. It’s a life unlike anything else.
 
Now on her third career as an author and Registrar of Marriages, Gillian Angrave’s life is still both busy and fulfilling. However, if you’re lucky enough to sit down with her, Gillian’s life of travel will keep anyone on the edge of their seat for hours.
 
It was a four-decade career that saw her transition from the fun of traditional British liners to the dangerous, politically-charged years she spent with the Diplomatic Service. But whether Gillian was helping passengers with their problems, taking part in the on-board entertainment, or dealing with expulsion from Guatemala – she wouldn’t have changed it for the world.
 
In ‘From Oceans to Embassies: A Personal Memoir by Gillian Angrave’, the full story is now being told for the first time.

Synopsis:

Gillian Angrave’s dream of seeing the world has led to a lifetime of unforgettable, sometimes dangerous, but always exhilarating, experiences and encounters, both sailing the Seven Seas as an Assistant Purser with P&O from 1967 to 1974, and as Ambassador’s PA with the Diplomatic Service from 1976 to 2005, serving in the Philippines, Peru, Guatemala, Chile, Mexico and Hungary.
 
In “From Oceans to Embassies”, she charts the course her life has taken and, with the help of more than two hundred stunning photographs, she re-lives her most memorable, as well as most perilous, moments that have taken place beyond our shores.
 
In the first part of Gillian’s book, she sets the scene as she writes about her background, school years and early working life.
 
The middle chapters are devoted to her six highly enjoyable, amusing and at times challenging years as an Assistant Purser on board P&O’s liners ss CANBERRA and ss ORIANA.
 
After a brief resumé of the history of that most illustrious company, Gillian goes on to describe what life on board was like in the late 1960s and early 1970s, so very different from what it is now. In those days the ship’s company provided most of the entertainment, in addition to their normal duties. Versatility was the keyword, and her love of dancing in particular proved invaluable as she demonstrated her skills at the Can-Can, the Charleston, and Hawaiian dancing.
 
On a more serious note, Gillian was fascinated by the technical side of sailing, and gained her Certificate of Efficiency as a Lifeboatman, as well as her Steering Certificate, recounting these challenges by way of amusing anecdotes.
 
At the end of this section, she takes her readers on a tour of the more exotic and fascinating ports of call that she visited, again beautifully illustrated by her photographs, with snippets of interesting information added for good measure.
 
Gillian then goes on to relate her compelling, and at times traumatic, experiences as a member of the Diplomatic Service. Each of her postings presented their own particular problems and difficulties, and she found the ordeal of being expelled, along with her colleagues, from Guatemala in 1981 both extremely harrowing and distressing. Having had to return at short notice to the Foreign Office in London, she was just starting to recover from the effects of this nightmare when she was posted to Chile in time for the Falklands conflict, made all the more poignant and worrying for her as her beloved CANBERRA was playing a part in that dispute too.
 
In the final section of her book, despite the heartbreak of having to retire from the Diplomatic Service upon reaching the age of 60, Gillian sets out to prove that although one door closes, another one invariably opens, as she embarks on her third career as an author, and as a Registrar of Marriages in West Sussex. She loves this work and feels very privileged to be able to play a part in a new chapter of a couple’s life together.
 
Her traveling days are not over either, and she ends on an upbeat note as she looks forward to yet another cruise, as a passenger this time, believing in her mantra: ‘
 
“Live your life like a butterfly: take a rest sometimes, but always remember to fly”.
 
The world is still her oyster!
 
“I start by taking readers right back to my childhood – to where it all began,” explains the author.

“The book then plays out as a chronology of my life: how I came of age, grew to love sport, my first taste of work, and the decision to join P&O in what would be the start of forty unforgettable years traveling the world.”

“I got to see life both from the whimsical and the dangerous side…and I use the word “dangerous” intentionally, because life in the Diplomatic Service was, on occasion, anything but safe. I also take readers through the tough transition of having to adapt to life back in the UK, and the new existence I embarked on that was so different from anything I’d known before.”

“Looking to the future, I feel very excited and privileged to be playing a part also in P&O Heritage’s online exhibition which looks at the changing roles of P&O’s Women at Sea.  You can watch this fascinating story on P&O Heritagewow-women-on-the-waves. I am an avid supporter of all that P&O Heritage do to preserve and celebrate the maritime history and collections of a company I loved so much and felt proud to serve, one of the best-known companies in the world.”

Gillian’s book is thoroughly entertaining, often unbelievable, and is unlike any other memoir you’ll ever read!    A truly inspirational read.
 
From Oceans to Embassies: A Personal Memoir by Gillian Angrave’,

Published under Craig House Books, is available now (price £14.99 hardback and £11.99 paperback plus p & p) either direct through her official website gillangrave.co.uk/, or by contacting her via her email info@gillianangrave.co.uk.    
 
It is also available on Amazon, and at Waterstones and Foyles online (the revised Second Edition only now).

About the Author:

Born in Leicester in 1945, Gillian was educated at Guthlaxton Grammar School and the Leicester College of Technology. After three years working in Leicester as a PA for an architect, an engineering company, and The Rank Organisation, she joined P&O as an Assistant Purser in 1967, sailing in CANBERRA and ORIANA until 1974.
After a brief spell ashore, she again got itchy feet and in 1976 joined the Foreign & Commonwealth Office as Ambassador’s PA, a position she held, and greatly enjoyed, for almost thirty years. Her postings took her to the Philippines, Peru, Guatemala, Chile, Mexico, and Hungary. She retired from ‘The Office’ on 16 April 2005, her 60th birthday.

Single (her love of travel somehow always seemed to get in the way of marriage), upon retirement Gillian became, and still is, a Registrar of Marriages in West Sussex, a job she also loves.  Now she marries everyone else!

Throughout her life, Gillian has enjoyed photographing and writing about all the exotic places in which she has lived, and which she has visited, mainly in short articles for societies and other groups.

“My life has been spent fulfilling my dream of traveling the world” she explains. “I count myself so lucky and privileged to have sailed the Seven Seas and been sent on postings with the Diplomatic Service to such exciting and interesting countries. Travel has been my constant companion and I wouldn’t have missed the experience for the world. I intend to keep traveling for as long as I can.”

Not Wanted on Voyage & All At Sea - Peter Langton (Pratt)
Not wanted on Voyage

The first of a trilogy of personal memoirs in the sixties and seventies when passenger ships were still used more for transportation than holiday cruises. This book is from a Purser's viewpoint and uncovers the often tough and humorous goings on behind the scenes of line voyages.

This can be purchased at Amazon via the following link, 

Not wanted on Voyage.

All At Sea

The second volume of the trilogy relates to the 80's and 90's when passenger shipping was in transition from being a method of transportation to holiday cruising. By this time the author has received a degree of promotion but the humorous and sometimes unbelievable predicaments continue.

This can be purchased at Amazon via the following link,

All at Sea.

Lucky, Lucky Me I would have done it for free - Ian Fraser
Ian Fraser on his life entertaining cruise ship passengers
 
His warm nature makes it easy to see why Ian Fraser enjoyed his job so much, and why he was so good at it. For nearly 24 years Ian worked on P&O cruise ships, appearing in, and organising entertainment for hundreds of thousands of passengers.
 
He travelled the world singing, dancing, and having a ball. Ian has just written and published a book about those days. It is called Lucky, Lucky Me: I Would Have Done It For Free.
 
“The title says it all,” says Ian. “It sounds trite. But I woke up every day thinking ‘What are we doing today?’ Something new was always happening. A new show. New places.”
 
Ian, 68, grew up in northeast Scotland and later lived in Wigton. His younger sister is former ITV Border presenter Gilly Fraser. They worked together on the book.
 
“It just poured out of me,” says Ian. “I wrote it by hand. Every day I posted what I’d written to Gilly. She typed it up and tidied it up.”
 
Ian was a well-established singer in Scotland. After falling out with a promoter he fired off several letters, one of them to P&O. He passed the audition and, in 1983, flew to Sydney to be an entertainments officer on the Oriana. Ian had been out of the UK only once before, on honeymoon to Ibiza.
 
“I always fancied the idea of travelling. But I could never see myself in a position to be able to afford it. Suddenly I was based in Sydney for three years. My first glimpse of the opera house - could anything be more fabulous?”
 
The Oriana carried 1,800 passengers, most of them Australian. It travelled to countries including New Zealand, China, Hong Kong, and Malaysia.
 
Ian took keep-fit classes, ran deck quoits tournaments, was a bingo caller and quizmaster, and every evening hosted a dinner table before performing in two shows. He revelled in the long days, and nights.
 
“I was 32 when I first went to sea. I was late in starting out. But I had an apprenticeship of doing pubs and clubs. Dance and acting were new to me. But boy, was I like a sponge.”
 
He says the atmosphere for shows on ships tends to be enthusiastic. “What you must bear in mind is, everybody’s on holiday. They’ve probably had a nice day. They’re not ‘Come on - entertain me.’ It’s ‘There’s Ian. He was doing the deck quoits with us today.’
 
“You must be a people person. Be a listener, have a personality that must be unfailingly cheerful, especially once I got to be a boss. I couldn’t walk out of my cabin and be grumpy. I had to have this persona of being happy. I have to say hello to every single person. ‘Hello! Did you enjoy the show last night?’ That’s something I didn’t find difficult.
 
“The ship was a microcosm of the world. There were 25 to 30 different nationalities working on it. Every single religion. Yet everybody got on. It’s what the world ought to be.”
 
The Oriana was decommissioned in 1986. Ian was transferred to the Canberra. This had mostly British passengers. The ship was hugely popular, as it had been requisitioned by the Ministry of Defence as a troop ship during the Falklands War.
 
There was a three-month round-the-world cruise then trips around the Caribbean. Ian met his second wife Tammy on board. They lived in Wigton in the 1990s, some of the time. Ian was generally away from home for four months, then off for two months.
 
He became cruise director - in charge of onboard entertainment - on the Sea Princess, whose route took in Norway and Iceland. He then had the same role on the Canberra, giving singer and actress Claire Sweeney her first onboard cabaret spot. She is one of several former colleagues who have written forewords to Ian’s book.
 
In 1995 Ian became cruise director on P&O’s flagship, the new Oriana.
 
“As I went up the ladder, I got more major parts in shows. I really loved the performing part of it. A highlight was the show A Tribute to Freddie Mercury. Who wouldn’t enjoy doing that? Pound for pound, I think it’s the best show we ever did.”
 
Other attractions for passengers included comedians such as Tom O’Connor and Roy Walker and musicians including Joe Longthorne and Joe Brown. “Joe’s contract had 19 different riders. We were thinking ‘Oh, a bloody diva.’ But he was one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met.
“Roy Walker has been a good pal. I go down to play golf with him. Sir Alex Ferguson was on several cruises. I see him at horseracing every now and again. I get on brilliantly with him.”
Ian would sometimes interview celebrity passengers in the ship’s theatre. One of these was Jimmy Savile. What did Ian think when the truth about Savile emerged?
 
“That was weird. And so disappointing. He had that charisma that we all loved at the time. Quite extraordinary... he used to walk around the promenade deck. People joined in. I say in the book, he was like the Pied Piper. People were writing home saying ‘I’ve just done my walk with Jimmy Savile!’ How wrong we all were.
 
“Then you get somebody like Liz Dawn. I have never in my life seen an audience reaction better than when I introduced her. There was a thousand people-plus in the theatre. Everyone gave her a standing ovation before she even opened her mouth. She was fabulous.
“Every day that fortnight you would see her and her husband sitting talking to people, having lunch with people. Which I can honestly say wasn’t always the case with a few celebrities. I won’t name names, but some weren’t interested in mixing.”
 
Amazing people, and places. The ships themselves were spectacular playgrounds. Then were the ports and destinations inland. Ian’s favourites included Sydney, New York, Hong Kong, and Tsavo National Park in Kenya. “By and large, every port was different. Different culture, architecture, people.”
 
It wasn’t always plain sailing. Ian’s book recalls a 50-foot wave breaking windows on the Oriana. On another occasion he shepherded passengers when a smoke alarm sounded. He was suitably attired. The alarm had gone off during a production of Guys and Dolls. Ian was playing a policeman.
 
Given how much he loved life at sea, was it ever hard to come home? “No. Home’s still home. Ask any British sailor ‘What’s your favourite port?’ and they’ll say ‘Southampton.’ You needed to get back to normality.”
 
He agrees that this life may have contributed to the break-up of his second marriage. “My first marriage, I was just too young. My second wife Tammy was a croupier on the ship, then entertainments officer. When we had a son, she couldn’t sail anymore. Being away was probably one of the main reasons our relationship ended. I was a bit of a workaholic. Even when I came home, I was working out new things. You just do what you must do. It’s a labour of love.”
 
Passengers ranged from the rich to once-in-a-lifetime cruisers. Even Ian’s patience was occasionally tested. In his book he admits to once snapping at a persistently rude passenger.
In its pages he seems impatient with people who did not appreciate what they had, such as passengers complaining about not being able to use their usual restaurant for one night, despite being offered a VIP menu and a bottle of wine elsewhere.
 
Ian says: “When I first went on the Canberra, it was spartan. We didn’t have a proper theatre or en-suite facilities. We only had two restaurants. But somehow... we had nothing, and we all shared it. Now, everybody expects so much. That’s life. It’s easy now for people to criticise things. You only have to go on Facebook.”
 
He thinks that people are more comfortable in their own friends and family groups now, perhaps less willing to join in the communal entertainment that was his livelihood, and his passion. This is among the reasons Ian feels he was right to retire in 2006. Another is that budget cuts led to less experienced performers and worse shows.
 
When he stepped down, the tributes included a This Is Your Life-style presentation on his final cruise and a letter from Sir Alex Ferguson.
 
Ian now enjoys a quiet life in the Scottish Borders with his wife Jackie. But he does not pretend that walking away from the job he loved was easy. “When I retired, one of the hardest things was, you miss being somebody. Does that sound big-headed? I’d gone from being in charge, being in all the shows, working hard, to suddenly switching off.
 
“I knew basically the time had come. I was 55. I was just beginning to not have enough energy. You had to give your all. If you didn’t, people would find you out. And I didn’t want people to think ‘Not him again - we had him last year.’ I wanted people to think ‘We miss Ian, he was good.’”
 
Writing the book has, he says, given him a new lease of life. Gilly has arranged for him to give some talks about it. A pleasant consequence of the book has been an improvement in their relationship.
 
“In all honesty, we’ve never been that close. I wouldn’t say we’ve been antagonistic. But we’ve always had differences. Our mum always used to worry about it. An unexpected bonus of doing the book is that we’re closer now than we’ve ever been.”
 
That feels appropriate for what is essentially a book about kindness, happiness, and community. It’s a book about people determined to put their troubles aside, and those who help them to do it.
 
“If something nice happens, you can be happy. But it’s much nicer if you’re sharing it with somebody. It spreads. And it lasts longer. If you have success with a show, next day everybody’s talking about it. ‘What did you think of so and so? Wasn’t he great?’ The whole ship buzzed.”
 
Ian falls silent. His eyes are suddenly damp. “I’ve been lucky all my life,” he says. “Various times I’ve been at a crossroads. I picked the right one. And if I’ve picked the wrong one, it’s taken me to a better one. I’ve had a lucky life. A happy life. That job... every single box was ticked for me.”
 
Lucky, Lucky Me costs £10 plus £2 postage. Email Iandmfraser2@hotmail.com 

Voyages to Maturity - Michael Frost
Voyages To Maturity

'A Witty and Humourous Book of People, Ports, Ships and the Constancy of Change in Politics'

Excerpts from Voyages
 
"And I was also back in the engine room. Having seen Khyber's turbines, I was somewhat familiar with the general principles of the steam turbine engine, but Mantua is built on somewhat a larger scale, and, of course, was much more modern (at that time relatively few vessels were motor (diesel) vessels, and very few indeed were turbo-electric, as was Canberra) ... the work itself was very routine, mainly comprising taking the temperature of thousands of almost unreadable gauges, and, once a watch cleaning the nozzles which forced the fuel into the boilers. This was a horrible job, as it required climbing up the front of the airless boilers and extracting these tubular jets ...

"(But) on July 31st, at 13 minutes past 1 in the afternoon ... the telegraph rang "Stop" ... I was instructed to go up on deck and see what all this was about ... I was greeted by the sight of dry land; about a hundred yards from the starboard side was a palm-fridged island along whose beach I could see a line of excited gesticulating people. I knew that going back down and telling the 3rd engineer that we had surprisingly come alongside an island would not cut much mustard with him ... So I took a trip to the bridge.
 
"There I encountered a quite chaotic situation ... I looked at the chart and saw that our last charted position was near the south-western end of Kiltan island, which I noted had last been charted in 1896 ... but about which there was a hand-written note ... stating that 'coral growth' had been observed ... and saw that it was one of the Laccadive Islands and a leper colony administered from the state of Kerala.

"Waiting for us at the dock as we arrived (at Abadan in Iran) was a delegation of P&O and Shell Executives. They quickly boarded then disappeared to (Captain) Basil's cabin, never to be seen again until they departed en masse, less one of their number. Basil was not seen again ..."
 
"The first day of cruising was as expected. Although the Bay of Biscay was, as usual, unpleasantly choppy (though not troublesome, Arcadia having been only the second of the company's ships to have been fitted with stabilizers, and these proved to be a big advance in dampening what could be a very uncomfortable motion), and typically for the Bay, it poured all day. Nevertheless, the major routine of the late morning was boat drill ... it is to be recalled that the idea of improving lifeboat capacity and utility first achieved public notice after the 1912 sinking of Titanic. Which was fitted with an insufficient number of lifeboats to accommodate all aboard ...

"On a lighter note, some of us enjoyed lifeboat drills. These exercises, which all passengers obliged to attend (roll-calls are taken) are designed to familiarize crew and passengers with the route to their assigned lifeboats, and equally importantly, to instruct passengers in the use of wearing of life-jackets. The latter requirement, we found, often proved particularly difficult for 18-25-year old female passengers, some of them were all fingers and thumbs when it came to tying and untying knot. We generally found sufficient time to assist; sometimes some expressed complete amazement at our dexterity, on occasion needing help even after the drill!"


More details can be found at the following web site, michaelfrostauthor.com

School Days Neither Dotheboys Hall Nor Tom Brown's - Michael Frost

School Days Neither Dotheboys nor Tom Brown’s follows author Michael Frost’s journey through the British educational system in the 1960’s, from elementary schools to appointments on worldwide cargo ships.

This book is the preamble to Frost’s previous work “Voyages to Maturity, Seven Years before the Mast with P&O”, published in 2019.

This story describes the world of British boarding schools, nautical training, and the ‘toughening’ role that these institutions saw as their strength. Frost hopes to portray the message that schoolboys not only survive, but flourish after an almost uniquely British path towards education.

About the Author

Michael Frost was born in the UK; after spending his younger years in the British educational system, he spent seven years with a leading British Shipping company, circumnavigating the world four times.

In 1969, he moved to Canada, where he married and practiced as a lawyer in B.C. He enjoyed a life engaged in civil litigation until his retirement in 2014. He has two sons and five grandchildren, all flourishing … but certainly unlikely to want to follow in the path of their patriarch.

A copy of School Days Neither Dotheboys Hall Nor Tom Brown's can be purchased from Amazon.



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